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obama, john boehner, nancy pelosi and harry reid, many mitch -- mitch mcconnell all in one room. danielle nottingham tells us it maybe the last chance to get any kind of agreement to avoid that fiscal cliff. >> reporter: president obama is meeting today at the white house with top congressional democrats harry reid and nancy pelosi and leading republicans mitch mcconnell and john boehner. it's the president's first meeting with congressional leaders since november 16th. the closed door discussions are an attempt to reach a last minute agreement to avoid automatic spending cuts and tax increases due to kick in january 1st. >> probably the worst case scenario will come out of this meeting today and that is we will kick the can down the road. >> reporter: senator bob courter told cbs this morning he predicts the meeting will bring only a temporary solution. >> this afternoon's meeting feels much to me like optics to make it look like we're doing something. let me just say one more time this is a total dereliction of duty at every level. >> reporter: going over the cliff would af
, the president put a trillion dollar in changes, medicaid, medicare and changes that nancy pelosi and speaker don't want to see. the and white house's defense is look, if the republicans are not going to play ball on revenue and tax increases they're fnot going to put the spending cuts on the table. this started out as a discussion about cutting the debt, cutting the deficit and now what's going to happen is th smallest plans on the table are going to-- are not really going to cut the deficit in the long run and don't have major spending cuts and i noticed at one point when he was asked about the sequester, not just the tax side, but the automatic spending cuts about to kick in. he said if we raise revenue by the wealthy paying more, that would be sufficient to turn off this request or what's called the automatic spending cuts and that's what republicans have been suggesting if he raises more revenue raising taxes on the rich, he's not going to put it towards the deficit, but the president kind of suggested that today. >> and a question from the beginning and it's your segment, go ahead. >> i've
. speaker nancy pelosi helped create the oce as a solution. in just four years they have done more than 100 investigations of lawmakers raising serious questions about possible congressional misdeeds. in 37 of those investigations, the oce referred them on to the actual house ethics committee for further review, meaning that in those 37 cases, the oce found reason to believe that house ethics and sometimes federal laws were likely violated. so why exactly does congress want to kill it? well, actually, that's hard to say. folks like these who have in the past voted to cut the oce budget or limit its powers refused to talk to us. for those who would talk, opinions were mixed. >> i think it's important there be some way for the public, for someone outside of congress to raise issues about the conduct of members of congress. one of the things that -- is it oce, oce has sent to the ethics committee was actually pretty flimsy. >> i supported it the first time, i'll support it again. >> i don't think it's working well. >> is there anything oce has done specifically that might have rubbed the congr
issues. i spoke with one republican aide that said nancy pelosi would have to add a lot of votes. a bill could come over from the senate and if there is a problem amongst house republicans or enough of them object, john boehner could amend it and send it back to the senate. from the house. that would put it in delay. >> they have all day tomorrow to work it out. one last thing i've been told that some could make the sale to members at 12:01 a.m. that any deal that comes over from the senate would be voting -- not voting for a tax hike, would be voting to cut taxes because then we're over the cliff and everything would expire. so interesting optics. i think it should be really known by folks watching tonight just because something is going to come out of the senate late tonight, early tomorrow morning, there's no guarantee it has a clear way forward. it's without some sort of drama at the very end. >> we thank them for their updates, as well, at 7:10 here on the east coast. the drama continues. we should also make one more quick note about what's going on with hillary clinton because a st
, nancy pelosi, the meeting is over, and all the major leaders were in the white house. we had the leader of the republican side in the senate, the democratic side in the senate, the republican side in the house, democratic side, geithner was there, tim giteny, treasury secretary, vice president there, and the president. the question is whether they got anything done at all. what we heard was, in fact, the president presented what was announced initially as a new plan, turned out it was not a new plan, but the same old plan to raise taxes only on those mmking above $400,000 a year. shibani: is -- it ended moments ago, all the major whose who were there, and timothy geithner. there's a ceo call at 5:30, hour and five minutes, talking to top ceos about the latest on the fiscal cliff, whatever the developments are included on that call, we know lloyd blankfein will be on the call. david: keep the picture up. you never know what picture you'll get. go to rich edson following this. we mentioned the fact, actually, you alerted us all via e-mail that this proposal was not really a new proposal.
ago, nancy pelosi exiting the meeting with president obama and the republican leaders as well as harry reid and tim geithner e we have bearn boehner who left, nancy pelosi waiting for her suv and she'll take off. she won't speak, she won't come in front of a camera. we're waiting to see if the other lawmakers inside come and let us know what's going on. rich edison is outside the white house right now. >> reporter: house speaker john boehner, and nancy pelosi just left the white house so the meeting has wrapped up. still waiting to see if the senate leaders come out. an official saying the president opened the meeting up by offering essentially what he started negotiations with, so no word if they made progress on anything further to get this resolved. if not, it's bad news considering this is a pposal that republicans say could not have pass the house, probably not pass the senate if you have to go with of say 60 vote threshold. >> the fact both the house leaders left without taking a microphone, is that a bad sign? >> we may have lost his audio. again, we'll let you know nancy pelosi
to be leader nancy pelosi because she may have to deliver some democratic votes to get something done. >> reporter: absolutely. pelosi and mcconnell are really going to sort of step into the center stage at this point in time. they are going to be crucial as well as, of course, house speaker john boehner, but really there's going to be a lot of focus right now on the senate because, as you remember, house speaker john boehner tried to get his own bill passed through the house. that didn't happen. he didn't have enough votes, so essentially everything shifts right now to the senate. so harry reid, mitch mcconnell, nancy please elosi on the house to say here are the number of democrats i could get if you offer a compromise package. but this is really a tough situation because there's so little time left and we've already seen the markets impacted by this. so if we do go over the cliff, if you look at the polls, most americans saying republicans will bear the brunt. they will blame republicans, but the bottom line is the president will get a lot of blame as well because this is going to
under nancy pelosi who bailed out president bush. it was the republican secretary of the treasury who literally got down on his knees to hurt because he needed her to bring home the vote. she was able to do that. >> abolish bribery in the house and it grinds to a halt. >> see? ok. 26 people dead in a connecticut elementary school. what to do about guns. >> since friday morning, a police officer was gunned down in memphis, leaving four children without their mother. two officers were killed outside a grocery store in topeka. the woman was shot and killed inside of a las vegas casino. three people were shot inside and alabama hospital. a 4-year-old was caught in a drive by in missouri. and taken off life-support justice today. each one of these american was a victim of everyday gun violence that takes the lives of more than 10,000 americans every year. violence that we cannot accept as routine. i will use all the powers of this office to help advance efforts aimed at preventing more tragedies like this. >> that was the president on wednesday morning and no doubt others have been killed
upset with this congress. >> president obama has invited nancy pelosi, john boehner, mitch mcconnell, and harry reid to the white house this afternoon for a fiscal cliff summit. >> here we are five days from the new year, and we might finally start talking. >> today's white house meeting might be the last chance to come to an agreement. that's because it takes time for a bill to work its way through both chamber of commerce. >> i don't know time wise how it can happen now. >> under senate rules, the only way a bill could make its way through the procedural hurdles in time is if every senator agrees not to. they'll have 24 hours. outside the beltway, carlino will be watching. >> everyone is kind of in a wait-and-see and fingers-crossed per expect tichb right now. >> since 1930 this is only the fifth time congress has worked after christmas. and today's summit is the first time president obama has met face to face with congressional leaders since mid-november. duarte, tick tock. >> thank you. >>> general schwarzkopf is being remembered this morning as a great hero and tactician.
at the white house with top congressional democrats harry reid and nancy pelosi and leading republicans mitch mcconnell and john boehner. it's the president's first meeting with congressional leaders since november 16th. the closed door discussions are an attempt to reach a last- minute agreement to avoid automatic spending cuts and tax increases due to kick in on january 1st. >> probably the worst case scenario will come out of this maybe today and -- meeting today and that is we will kick the can down the road. >> reporter: senator bob corker told "cbs this morning" he predicts the meeting will bring only a temporary solution. >> this afternoon's meeting feels much to me like optics to make it look like we're doing something but let me just say one more time. this is a total dereliction of duty at every level. >> reporter: going over the cliff would affect 88% of u.s. taxpayers whose taxes would go up on average $3,500 a year. many americans are frustrated the showdown has gone down to the last-minute. >> they're playing games with people's lives. and i don't mean that's correct. >> it's ju
and also -- and you can tell me whether this is a dream come true -- what if nancy pelosi and john boehner kind of got together and nancy pelosi told boehner he could bring the votes for his speakership and then maybe together could isolate the tea party section of his group and take away some of the radical left of her group and bring the moderates together, support him for speakership. me, being a democrat, i would not get everything i want, but the republicans would get everything they wanted. by the time re-election came up they would have seen there was a lot of progress made and maybe they could not run primaries on those guys that decided to run to the middle with policy they laid out together. host: thank you for the call. guest: so many things. basically, you are assuming that john boehner would be elected speaker in a democratic house. it is not likely that they would give him their votes. it is far more likely, quite honestly, that the democrats would like to see continued disruption on the republican side. either way there would be a much-weakened speaker or he would be deposed
would give some advice to speaker boehner, he needs to talk to nancy pelosi. when nancy pelosi was speaker, she found a way even with maximum republican opposition to bring her diverse caucus. that is a caucus with diverse views together to get things done like the affordable care act. like dodd frank. she got it done. >> that's great advice, and we hope he listens. >> i hope so. >> thank you so much, my friend. >> my pleasure. >>> let's turn to ryan grim. mr. grim, the jobless are really the only segment of the population who get an immediate hit if we go over the fiscal cliff. doesn't this strike even what appears to be heartless politicians that the people most vulnerable are working class and working poor and middle class people who will get stiffed by this? >> yeah, the jobless have been getting pushed around by congress for years now, you know, ever since the economic crisis. and they implemented some extended emergency benefits they've been getting told that if they give them unemployment it will make them lazy and they will not look for jobs. states have insisted they d
there in the house of representatives? and specifically would any speaker, whether it's john boehner, nancy pelosi or anybody else, allow a bill to pass like this, especially one that violates four republican party doctrine that would raise taxes, would they allow it to -- and the answer to that is probably not. democrats have alleged for week now what john bain ser doing is waiting until the gavel is safely in his hands for the next congress. that happens on january 3rd, when they formally elect a speaker. that's one theory, but probably the thing that make the most sense is the fact that then it becomes a vote to cut taxes for 98% of americans, instead of allowing them to rise for 1% or 2%. that is something logically the republicans would probably or more likely go along with, though at this point who knows where we'll end up with on this thing. january 3rd is the new congress. in the days after that, that's the inertia it scenario. >> gentlemen, thanks so that. i appreciate it. >>> we want to bring in today's panel s perry bacon, democratic strategy margie omero, and chip saltzmann. i want to
this out, you know that john boehner and nancy pelosi and the wimps in the chambers are trying to figure it out. the right combination of the income threshold for tax increases with entitlement cuts, we haven't found it. the theory that republicans only want to pass something with the majority, that worked for haster when he was speaker. it's hard to see what kind of tax increase will get a majority of republicans and bring along enough democrats. boehner couldn't pass a million dollar tax increase. why do we think he can get something out of the house if they lower it to 400,000 or 500,000. we are skeptical that they can come together with the solution in the next five or six days. >> marty, we spent a lot of time talking about the house. what is mitch mcconnell thinking in the senate? >> he is a fascinating part of this. first of all, he is probably going to vote against any deal that raises taxes. whether he actively whips against it or lets it go, there is a number of senate republicans who seem open to upper income tax increases. some of the new england moderates, scott brown and su
much time can we spend spinning our wheels today we met nancy pelosi, making fun of republicans. a guy dressing up as santa claus. bringing 200 pounds of coal to republicans. distractions in such high taxes coming. what will it take to get these two sides together? >> well, we talk about distractions. we have the president telling us that we need some kind of cooling off period. this is a president that had two years with the democratic house and senate. and everyday come they woke up and did not raise taxes. so they really wanted to do this, if they really believe, they want their taxes to go up on earners making more than $250,000 tunnel were we waiting until the last minute? ten days before the tax hike said. it is a mystery that they are saying that this is an emergency one they had to two years they could have done before. gerri: okay, this is what plan b was under john boehner. if you make a million dollars one year you pay a permanent estate tax at 35%, not 50%. that will go into effect january 1. if plan be is a no go, what will plan c look like? by the way, i love your red jac
shot here. now, want to show you the players. president, there in the middle, democrats nancy pelosi and harry reid. republicans mitch mcconnell and john boehner. those four members of congress are expected to make the drive from the capital, which you see on the right, down pennsylvania avenue, to the white house, there on the left. and we expect them to enter through a side door on the west side of the mansion. that's the entrance right there. and they'll meet with the president. in the oval office. beginning, we're told, at 3:00 p.m., less than one hour from now. and just four days ahead of the so-called fiscal cliff. so a very big moment in the nation's capital. and to walk us through what might happen we turn to jessica yellin, a chief white house correspondent. jessica, we said up front, it is a long shot, give us a best case scenario. >> reporter: the best case scenario would be that all the leaders walk out of this meeting and say they have a deal. the two senators say they can bring it to a vote, and none of their members will filibuster it. house speaker john boehner says h
of six attending. vice president biden, harry reid, house minority leader nancy pelosi, mitch mcconnell and john boehner representing the republicans. brianna keilar is live from washington. is anybody optimistic that a deal could be done today around a table? >> i will tell you the optimism is sort of sinking. senate majority leader harry reid said he doesn't see how it can get done by january 1st. we heard from president obama before he left from his vacation that he was optimistic. logistically the white house will tell you it's possible. when you listen to what you're hearing some of these congressional leaders say, there's a lot of posturing laying blame to the other side if we do go over the cliff. take a listen. >> republicans are not about to write a blank check for anything senate democrats put forward because we find ourselves at the edge of the cliff. >> we are here in washington working while the members of the house of representatives are out watching movies, watching their kids play soccer, basketball, doing all kinds of things. they should be here. >> now, house sp
" summit with nancy pelosi, john boehner, mitch mcconnell and harry reid and today's meeting may be the last realistic chance to come to an agreement before the end of the year. >> here we are five days from the new year, and we might finally start talking. >> i don't know time-wise how it can happen now. >> under senate rules, a bill could make its way through procedural hurdles in time only if every senator agrees not to slow down the progress. the house will not be back in session until sunday night. >>> a former bay area city councilman is about to learn firsthand how washington works or doesn't work. 31-year-old newly elected congressman that man there eric swalwell is the new kid on the block and heading off to capitol hill to take part in all the quagmire there. swalwell a former dublin city councilman says he is ready to bring small-town solutions to capitol hill to help prevent an avoidable "fiscal cliff." >> i'm confident that there can still be a buzzer beater here where we can beat the clock and deliver on middle class taxes. >> congressman swalwell will be the second
to beat the budget impasse. mr. obama will hold a "fiscal cliff" summit with nancy pelosi, john boehner, mitch mcconnell and harry reid and today's meeting may be the last realistic chance to come to an agreement before the end of the year. >> here we are five days from the new year and we might finally start talking. >> i don't know how it could happen time-wise. >> it could make its way through procedural hurdles every time only if every senator agrees not slow down the process. of the house won't be back in session until sunday night. >>> a former bay area city councilman is about to learn firsthand how washington works or doesn't. 31-year-old newly elected congressman is heading into a capitol hill quagmire. he said he is ready to bring small town solutions to capitol hill to help prevent and avoidable "fiscal cliff. >> i'm confident there can still be a buzzer beater here where we can beat the clock and deliver on middle class taxes. >> congressman swalwell will be the second youngest member congress to be sworn in on january 3. he leaves sunday for d.c. to pick up his new keys to
of the democrats were going to join. >> that's an unreasonable standard. >> he's not negotiating with nancy pelosi. he's negotiating with the president of the united states trying to work this deal out and certainly it's become a discussion with nancy pelosi and it's not, it's a discussion with the president of the united states in term of trying to work this through and where does he have to turn? he has to turn back to the principles in this negotiation and that's what he's done. >> but i believe he could have passed his plan b if he hadn't gone with the $20 million cutoff and he'd moved toward the center and that had been under discussion with a $400,000 cut off or a $500,000 cut off for the tax cuts to go into effect and the tax increases above that figure to go into effect and he didn't try to go into the center and he locked himself into an impossible situation where he couldn't get 218 votes in his own caucus and that was a failure of leadership. >> martin frost, david winston, ten seconds. you have ten seconds to respond. >> i'm sorry, but you're asking him to take the democratic position
of that meeting. reid said that he found the meeting to be constructive as well as did nancy pelosi. speaker boehner seemed to have a slightly different take, basically saying, look, we've already passed legislation in the house to deal with the sequester, to deal with some of these issues so why not revisit what was passed in the house? but the bottom line is the words that are coming out of this meeting, constructive, optimistic. there seems to be a little bit of movement. you always hesitate to say that because, of course, these talks could become derailed at any minute, but president obama set to address the press and the nation hopefully to give us a little bit of a better sense of how that meeting wrapped up. >> kristin, how do we square the sense of optimism and everyone saying that the talks were constructive when they're still stuck on the same points? if this hasn't moved on from $250,000 a year? >> reporter: correct. it's a very good point, and so the question is what can leader reid do, mitch mcconnell do within the next 24 hours to basically put together a compromise package? i
to nancy pelosi. >> does this get easier once boehner gets reelected as majority leader? >> hopefully we don't get to that point, but that senate bill did not get a single republican vote. >> jonathan, answer my question. does this get easier? >> let's pretend we're not going have a deal and january 3rd comes and boehner, he hopes gets reelected as speaker of the house, then the deal get easier to get done? >> this isn't even an issue. >> oh, come on! you know what i'm asking here! >> speaker boehner will get reelected and that's not the issue and the issue is not to pass something through the senate that can go on to pass the house. >> john, do you think that the republicans bill which essentially goes after programs for the poor increases military spending? so it adds to the deficit and only is willing to raise taxes on millionaires and above and that is getting through the senate. so what you're saying the reverse is true when you look at the house. boehner can pass the senate bill tomorrow as harry reid said today, but he doesn't want to do it with democrats and he wants a majority o
leaders nancy pelosi, john boehner, mitch mcconnell and harry reid to reach agreements before tax hikes and spending cuts kick in january 1. >> we have been asking the president and the democrats to work with us on a bipartisan agreement for months. >> i don't know time wise how it can happen now. >> reporter: the senate majority leader wants house republicans to return from their vacations to approve a democratic senate plan that extends tax cuts for families making less than $250,000 a year. >> that's the only option that is viable escape route. >> reporter: but republican leaders say it's up to democrats who control the senate and white house to avert the "fiscal cliff." >> republicans aren't about to write a blank check for anything senate democrats put forward just because we find ourselves at the edge of the cliff. >> reporter: house members will return to capitol hill on sunday and could begin voting that night. they would have about 24 hours to approve a deal. adding to the urgency, treasury secretary timothy geithner warned congress that the nation's debt limit will be reached
, mitch, house speaker john boehner, democratic leader nancy pelosi tomorrow afternoon at the white house. to try to find out if there is a way to avert the fiscal cliff. today, after the president returned from his vacation in hawaii, he did meet with his senior advisors. they did conduct some back- channel negotiations as they have been during the holidays on a bill to possibly avert the fiscal cliff. those talks i'm told did not make much progress. the face-to-face conversations may fact create the possibility of a breakthrough. but right now the president has no new proposals to give his congressional leaders. he will stick with what he told the nation on friday-- raise income taxes for households earning more than $250,000, extend unemployment benefits for those americans out of work for more than six months, and try to find some other means to avert the fiscal cliff before that deadline, and tomorrow, may give us a glimmer of hope but as i said, the white house does not consider this a breakthrough, but everyone is and will be talking. >> glor: major garrett at the white house. than
majority leader harry reid, house minority leader nancy pelosi, senate minority leader mitch mcconnell, and house speaker john boehner. have four dates to reach an agreement, but the u.s. economy would go off a fiscal cliff. that's when automatic spending increases and spending cuts would take effect. -- a deal will not be easy, because both sides are involved in a high-stakes political blame game. >> we are here in washington working while the members of the house of representatives are out watching movies and watching the kids play soccer and basketball and doing all kinds of things. they should be here. >> i told the president we would be happy to look at whatever he proposes. the truth is we are coming up against a hard deadline. this is a conversation we should have had months ago. clerk democrats want to extend bush-era tax cuts to everyone except those americans making to a hundred $50,000 or more per year. many republicans are against any tax increases. -- democrats want to extend bush-era tax cuts to everyone except those americans making $250,000 per year. >> d.c. mayor vinc
, dagen, he didn't have the votes to do it. so nancy pelosi is going to have to provide a lot of votes to get this done. but, you know, here's the thing i think is really interesting about this whole debate. i heard one of your previous news segments saying oh this is going to reduce the deficit by a trillion dollars. it's not going to come anywhere near reducing the deficit by a trillion dollars. if you do this tax increase on the rich, you maybe raise 40 billion dollars a year. that's not nothing, but 40 billion dollars over a year over ten years that's 400 billion. we're running a trillion dollars deficit. this is not a solution and not serious. that's why it always comes back to dealing with the spending side of the aisle because that's where the deficits come from. dagen: last thing, steve, what about the fate of house speaker john boehner because there's a lot more at play than just raising taxes on people who make more than a million dollars with what we saw happen last week? >> yeah, you know, i have always been a fan of john boehner's. i've known him for 20 years. i think he's
. and leader nancy pelosi with the number of votes needed to pass. >> what folks are looking for and all of us agree on this is action. they want to see that we are focused on them, not focused on our politics here in washington. >> reporter: that was the last time this group met more than a month ago. with time running out to forge a scaled-down compromise, can they agree on even the most basic elements, extending some income tax cuts, preventing pay cuts to medicare providers, fixing the alternative minimum tax. among the options to gain votes, averting an estate tax hike toll woo republicans. there's still time but no room for error. if congress doesn't act -- >> the impact psychologically and financially on americans of another plunge in the negative territory for the economy would be extremely harmful. >> reporter: and candy, as i said, those leaders are still meeting with the president. we'll see if any of them come out and speak to us after that meeting breaks up as soon as we have any word on whether there is an agreement, we'll bring it to you. >> jessica, it's interesting to me the p
the house had to clean up its act. nancy pelosi helped create the oce as a solution. the oce has done more than 100 investigations of lawmakers raising serious questions about possibly congressional misdeeds. in 37 of those investigations, the oce referred them on to the twauld house ethics committee for further review meaning in those 37 cases the oce found reason to believe that house ethics and federal laws were likely violated. so why does congress want to kill it? actually that's hard to say. folks like these who have in the past voted to cut the oce budget refused to talk to us. for those who would talk, opinions were mixed. >> i think it's important that there be some way for the public or someone outside of congress to raise issues about the conduct of members of congress. some of the things that oce has sent to the ethics committee was actually pretty flimsy. >> i supported it the first time, i'll support it again. >> is there anything oce has done specifically that might have rubbed the congress the wrong way to the point where they wouldn't want to get it going again? >> in fact
you, though, because nancy pelosi, your leader in the house, had proposed the million dollar threshold. >> exactly. >> let's take a look at exactly what she said. i don't want to put words in anybody's mouth. this is nancy pelosi from march of this year. go ahead. >> i says let's begin by getting rid of tax cuts for people making over a million dollars a year. i'm not even saying 250. >> i know. >> the president is saying 250. i'm saying a million and above. who can argue with that? >> so who can argue with that? >> well, the question was whether -- >> only the democrats -- >> the issue is who could argue with over a million dollars and obviously in the house, the republicans didn't even agree with their own speaker on a million dollars. look, the president, as we all know, as part of a larger agreement has said 400,000 should be the threshold as part of a larger agreement. the issue is the balance between the cuts and the revenue and what we have called for is balance. republicans in the house have refused even one penny so far from people earning more than a million dollars. >> which
and nancy pelosi leading republicans mitch mcconnell and john boehner. no deal can be reached in past without their cooperation. with the meeting comes a glimmer of hope. in the past all the ifisical cliff talks meetings like this have been the least productive of all. whether he meant to or not the senate majority leader may have spoken for a nation exhausted by seemingly endless fiscal cliff negotiations. >> what's going on here? >> reporter: what indeed. president obama returned to the white house in a grim mood. he met with no congressional leaders and said nothing about his efforts to avert the fiscal cliff, talks continue between senior white house and congressional staff, but that's been true throughout this entire saga. with the deadline looming there were dire predictions. >> come the first of this year americans will have less income than they have today. >> reporter: and recriminations. >> now republicans have bent over backwards. we stepped way, way out of our comfort zone. we wanted an agreement. but we had no takers. >> reporter: the senate's top dem
effort the hail hary pass was the house of representatives saying fine let's take nancy pelosi and chuck schumer's bill that they proposed this summer to extend the tax rates on every household and every small business a million dollars and below, allow them to go up on the million dollars and above which is the current law on january 1, let's do that. that ought to be something we can agree on. let me add this. when we he voted on our bill in the house this summer it was a clean extension which was an extension for are everyone in america not only did every republican vote for that but 19 democrats did as well. so this is why it is so frustrating for those in the house is that now we are close to the cliff. >> greta: and frustrating -- >> and we can't even get a single democrat to join with us. >> greta: if you think you are frustrated try the american people as they watch what is going on. congressman, thank you, sir. good luck, sir. >> call the senate and get them to act. we can't negotiate with nothing. >> greta: i don't think they would listen to me. thank you, congressman. straight
boehner and nancy pelosi. if they can't work this out and we go over the cliff it means smaller pay checks automatic spending cuts and according to some economists possibly another recession. molly henneberg tracking developments tonight at the white house. what are you hearing? >> hi, harris. senate republican leader mitch mcconnell confirmed it and the white house made it official. there will be a hearing here tomorrow according to a white house aide. it will be on the schedule that the president will talk fiscal cliff with those four top congressional leaders that you mentioned, harris. the president returned to washington today. he cut his hawaiian vacation short to get back to the white house for any possible last minute fiscal cliff meetings and it appears there will be one tomorrow. harris? >> well, what kind of response is the president getting from lawmakers at this point? >> well, senate republicans say they are willing to listen to any ideas the president has as to how to find a way forward. here is more. >> last night i told the president we would be happy to look at whatever h
what's my plan b? his plan b is a plan nancy pelosi embraced a few months ago. boehner couldn't get enough of his right flank onboard and pelosi was whipping votes against her own plan among democrats to embarrass boehner. so the politics worked out well for pelosi. it's a total mess, dysfunctional and both parties are not covering themselves in glory. >> got to leave it there. always good to see you. >> thanks. >> to ed henry in honolulu where the president is set to depart tonight. we got breaking news from the speaker and i believe -- they said we have a couple deals on the table. it's your turn, senate. >> yeah, eric, that's where the ball is going now. but what i think the speaker and maybe majority leader eric cantor are leaving out is the reason all eyes turned to the senate is the speaker can't get the job done thursday on plan b. plan a is essentially the big deal, the $4 trillion debt plan. i was speaking a short time ago to a white house official that happened they believe the president moved halfway towards the republicans starting at only want to go raise taxes on $250,
to go up. howard dean was making the rounds for months, saying that tax rates need to go up. nancy pelosi thinks the tax rates should go up on everybody. does the president have the political will to go against his own party? what we are seeing so far, he is not. we read his first offer, when he sat down with mr. boehner, mr. boehner said here's $800 billion for revenue and what do i get for that? the president allegedly said, that's for free. that's not evidence 6 somebody who wants a deal who, wants to lead. >> eric: what would you like to see? >> i would like to see a clean deal. i would like to see something that fixes the problem. keep in mind, one of the things that frustrates me is that the fiscal cliff is getting all of this attention, when it's real. i don't want to diminish it. but it's a drop in the bucket. the tax increases that the president wants that represent 8 cents of every dollar of debt. we are not dealing with the overall problem. that's what i would like to see. something that brings as much attention to the $16 trillion debt, as it does to the relatively smal
second proposal was nancy pelosi's proposal she offered in may of this year of doing tax cuts on people of one million dollars and above, that are one million and above. >> and now plan c now. >> now, now proposal-- >> for the republicans to get-- >> no, he was not and that's his failure dealing with his party, but as for negotiating, boehner has put forth many things. it's president obama that needs to take a page out of the play book of clinton to be able to move more to the middle. >> kelly: okay. and core of both of your arguments, here is what we're seeing on capitol hill as well, members of both sides of the aisle can't agree to disagree on things, there's no common ground. here is the way that people's business is being conducted so far as we've seen from mike emanuel's report. democrat leaders are hammering out deal they can pass and hopefully angela and mark, he see it get passed in the house before the automatic tax increases and deep spending cuts actually go into effect on january 1st, 20113, which is now some 48 hours away. do they have enough time to get it done? >> yes. >
is happening in our country. i have to give a lot of credit to our president and people like speaker nancy pelosi and senator barbara boxer and supervisor glory molina. >> would you go back into elected office? >> there is a lot of issues i care about -- health care, health care disparities, environmental justice, that is a big issue and will continue to be until we look at how we can regulate - >> you would probably take on some of these causes? >> i would hope so. obviously, i care about immigration reform. the president worked on helping the young children. i went to school with a lot of those types of individuals and continued to see many of them who are our brightest stars, who are educated and want to be so much a part of the american dream. just because they don't have a paper that says they are here legitimately, most don't know any other country, this is their home. >> we have some students and they will ask questions later. as a bit of advice for high- school teenage kids to want to work at the white house or would like to be in the president's cabinet sunday, what do you say to
that year, harry reid and nancy pelosi gave george bush a stimulus. what happened was two things, al. first of all, barack obama got reelected. and for a variety of reasons, the republicans never game barack obama the kind of cooperation we gave george bush. of course you should disagree. but then in the end, you try to work things out. when george bush came to harry reid, we worked with him to go and to come to an agreement. mitch mcconnell, the republican leader, said my number one agenda item is to defeat barack obama. and then in 2010, people were elected who don't believe in govern nans. who don't understand reality. it's not like we've had it forever. we didn't have it before the partisanship and there was some people so offended by the notion that barack obama could win for a variety of reasons, that they decided to delegitize it. i think you're going to see a gradual relinquishment of this kind of obstructionist death grip they have on the party. >> plet me ask you, you're leaving washington after serving so long and so well. what will you miss about washington? and what will you no
conservative conference that may not coming to to vote on something, even if nancy pelosi can corral the democrats, they need to pick off republicans. we don't know if any of them would vote for something like this. john boehner is ready to strike a deal. i'm not sure many others are. in the senate we have seen a number of conservative republicans saying they would vote. >> 20 republican votes? >> at this point it's very hard to say. i think john boehner would probably be trying to go in that direction if he could. we haven't seen enough house republicans come out yet and say they would support tax increases. if you have tom coal who broke with his party leadership and the party ranks about three weeks ago or so. we haven't seen enough say they would. i don't know that that's the right deal for that to try to strike. >> one of the strategies that republicans could very well allow us to go off the fiscal cliff. a few weeks into january they decide to take the vote on lowering taxes. lowering the race so they can say you know what, we voted to lower taxes. >> that's something that has
winners and losers. i think no winners kristal disagrees. >> i have a few. one is nancy pelosi because compared to john boehner i would say she looks like the greatest speaker of the house of all time. not un, surprisingly, mitt romney, because even though i'm sure he would rather be president, at least he doesn't deal with the mess himself. next on my list, rich people. we don't know what the deal looks like but you can bet they're on top in some way. they always do. and finally, toure, speak for yourself. i feel like a winner because as much as it is lame at work today, i would rather be here than in congress where i was trying to be so there you go. >> that's one way of spinning it. >> it's a -- i'm going to just kind of duck the question here. i don't want to get in to the winners and losers thing but a comment because i'm trying to piece it together over the last few days and months and i'm honestly and we'll see the final count tour contours of this an first reaction is what was the last year and a half all about? it looked like a pivot point in the presidency at the end of the
rapidly move to the solution to the situation. >> nancy pelosi tried to do that and the signature is not there. chuck hegel was a colleague of yours. are you surprised about the criticism he received from the left and the right being the possible nominee for president obama in the obama administration in the second term? >> hegel used on foreign policy, but he hasn't received a lot of criticism. how much of that is justified? i can't tell you. >> senator from vermont, we thank you for joining us the day after christmas. >> joining us to talk big picture and the president's second term cabinet, nbc editor mark murray was the december employee of the month. congratulations. >> excuse me. you heard from senator sanders saying the lack of urgency hasn't been a problem, but if you look at it for all intents and purposes, boehner removed himself from these discussions. harry reid, president obama, and a little bit of mitch mcconnell. what is possible of making a deal? >> the ball seems to be in mitch mcconnell's court. does he filibuster anything that harry reid ends up making with pres
b? his plan b is a plan nancy pelosi embraced a few months ago. boehner couldn't get enough of his right flank onboard and pelosi was whipping votes against her own plan among democrats to embarrass boehner. so the politics worked out well for pelosi. it's a total mess, dysfunctial and both parties are not covering themselves in glory. >> got to leave it there. always good to see you. >> thanks. >> to ed henry in honolulu where the president is set to depart tonight. we got breaking news from the speaker and i believe -- they said we have a couple deals on the table. it's your turn, senate. >> yea eric, that's where the ball is going now. but what i think the speaker and maybe majority leer eric cantor are leaving out is the reason all eyes turned to the senate is the speaker can't get the job done thursday on plan b. plan a is essentially the big deal, the $4 trillion debt plan. i was speaking a short time ago to a white house official that happened they believe the president moved halfway towards the republicans starting at only want to go raise taxes on $250,000 and above. he mo
boehner said. wisest words of anyone in the house of representatives handing the gavel to nancy pelosi to be speaker of the house after republicans lost that 2006 election. he said, my party forgot that powers to be used for the good of the people and not for power's sake. that's what they have to remember. now, as far as that fiscal cliff, they can withhold the tax schedule changes. they're able like in defense, when you have a defense cut or a defense cut like that, it takes place over three to four years. it doesn't all happen this figs year. what we want is a bunny slope not a cliff so the damage is not great as long as we are able to take the short-term deal that david spoke about. what everyone is looking for, consumer and business investor is certainty. congress generates the political will with the president to address our problem. both in the grand scheme so we get $4 trillion in debt reduction over a year and second in the short term and don't have a gross domestic product grow at zee ro over the year. >> when you think about this entire issue, there is the gop caucus and the
, for the house to pass the senate bill is quickest. you can't do it because you have all the democrats and nancy pelosi can whip her caucus, she maas lie one or two, and then you need about 30 republicans, but boehner -- >> arguing the senate bill is more partisbipartisan. >> it means only 2% of people would pay the 39% tax rate on everything above 250, right? but you reason he won't even try to pass that bill, is because he doesn't want the optics with the bill being passed with mostly democrats. bainers wants it a majority of the majorities, that that will be mostly republicans passing it. that's impossible, because republicans, you can't even get 10 or 20 of them to agree on anything they think is a tax hike. so you have a stalemate of boehner's over design. >>> ryan, to you, please responds to what joann said. a year ago, did you think -- yeah, we knew this was going to happen, did you think it would be this situation just days before the new years? if so are we going to have another fiscal cliff or a bunch that come to fruition here where we never see really a solution? >> well, it was very
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